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		<title>Comment on Daimler&#8217;s design comp receives 50,000 entries by Style your smart - design contest's results - Smart Car of America Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/news/daimlers-design-comp-receives-50000-entries/comment-page-1#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>Style your smart - design contest's results - Smart Car of America Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Daimler&#8217;s design comp receives 50,000 entries &#124; Car &amp; SUV  new article on the design contest posted today [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Ford Taurus 2010 &#8211; Gravel Truck Paint Quality Demo by Stephen N. Gaiski</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/videos/ford-taurus-2010-gravel-truck-paint-quality-demo/comment-page-1#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen N. Gaiski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Automotive painting is a science.

A typical finish consists of four layers:
1) electrocoat - provides corrosion protection
2) primer - protects electrocoat, stone chip resistance, adhesion
between basecoat and elctrocoat
3) basecoat - provides color to the vehicle
4) clearcoat - sunlight protection, scratch resistance, gloss
and appearance properties

Film thickness is a criteria used by the auto industry to ensure durability.

Each of the 4 layers must be at the proper film thickness specification.

If any of the individual layers is below specification. The vehicle would
be considered a factory paint defect.

A visible manifestation of low film thickness is paint peeling, body rusting and stone chipping.

Since the mid 1990s the auto industry while retaining ownership of the paint facilities have outsourced the process and quality responsibilities to multiple paint suppliers.

Outsourcing in this application is defined as a process in which a company 
assigns its in-house operations to a third party.

Specifics on automotive paint suppliers roles within the facilities may be found in textbooks published both in Europe and America. The most recent textbook being released in 2008.

The paint suppliers actively market and advertise their outsourcing expertise with terms such as &quot;Cost Per Unit&quot; or &quot;Pay As Painted&quot; supplier programs. Outsourcing [Cost Per Unit] programs are common throughout Europe and America within the auto industry.

Not all vehicle flaws are associated with the paint itself, vehicle design and weathering will 
impact the vehicle&#039;s finish.

It is our opinion that the automaker, auto dealer and consumer should not receive a vehicle painted below the automaker&#039;s film thickness specifications of any of the four layers that comprise a vehicle&#039;s finish.

Low film thickness will cause paint failures.

Most automakers are currently experiencing  problems with their paint finishes.

A quick internet search for the following:

Toyota Paint Problems, Toyota Paint Peeling
Ford Paint Problems, Ford Paint Peeling
GM Paint Problems, GM Paint Peeling
Chrysler Paint Problems, Chrysler Paint Peeling
Honda Paint Problems, Honda Paint Peeling
Nissan Paint Problems, Nissan Paint Peeling

will return results back in the millions.

Public Interest best served by a &quot;Truth in Finish Disclosure&quot; with the purchase of any vehicle.

Automakers, auto dealers and consumers should receive a finish painted to the automakers&#039; specifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Automotive painting is a science.</p>
<p>A typical finish consists of four layers:<br />
1) electrocoat &#8211; provides corrosion protection<br />
2) primer &#8211; protects electrocoat, stone chip resistance, adhesion<br />
between basecoat and elctrocoat<br />
3) basecoat &#8211; provides color to the vehicle<br />
4) clearcoat &#8211; sunlight protection, scratch resistance, gloss<br />
and appearance properties</p>
<p>Film thickness is a criteria used by the auto industry to ensure durability.</p>
<p>Each of the 4 layers must be at the proper film thickness specification.</p>
<p>If any of the individual layers is below specification. The vehicle would<br />
be considered a factory paint defect.</p>
<p>A visible manifestation of low film thickness is paint peeling, body rusting and stone chipping.</p>
<p>Since the mid 1990s the auto industry while retaining ownership of the paint facilities have outsourced the process and quality responsibilities to multiple paint suppliers.</p>
<p>Outsourcing in this application is defined as a process in which a company<br />
assigns its in-house operations to a third party.</p>
<p>Specifics on automotive paint suppliers roles within the facilities may be found in textbooks published both in Europe and America. The most recent textbook being released in 2008.</p>
<p>The paint suppliers actively market and advertise their outsourcing expertise with terms such as &#8220;Cost Per Unit&#8221; or &#8220;Pay As Painted&#8221; supplier programs. Outsourcing [Cost Per Unit] programs are common throughout Europe and America within the auto industry.</p>
<p>Not all vehicle flaws are associated with the paint itself, vehicle design and weathering will<br />
impact the vehicle&#8217;s finish.</p>
<p>It is our opinion that the automaker, auto dealer and consumer should not receive a vehicle painted below the automaker&#8217;s film thickness specifications of any of the four layers that comprise a vehicle&#8217;s finish.</p>
<p>Low film thickness will cause paint failures.</p>
<p>Most automakers are currently experiencing  problems with their paint finishes.</p>
<p>A quick internet search for the following:</p>
<p>Toyota Paint Problems, Toyota Paint Peeling<br />
Ford Paint Problems, Ford Paint Peeling<br />
GM Paint Problems, GM Paint Peeling<br />
Chrysler Paint Problems, Chrysler Paint Peeling<br />
Honda Paint Problems, Honda Paint Peeling<br />
Nissan Paint Problems, Nissan Paint Peeling</p>
<p>will return results back in the millions.</p>
<p>Public Interest best served by a &#8220;Truth in Finish Disclosure&#8221; with the purchase of any vehicle.</p>
<p>Automakers, auto dealers and consumers should receive a finish painted to the automakers&#8217; specifications.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2011 Porsche Cayenne photos and details released by pojokan.com</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/news/2011-porsche-cayenne-photos-and-details-revealed/comment-page-1#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>pojokan.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Porsche Cayenne 2011...&lt;/strong&gt;

Porsche has finally packs completely new Cayenne SUV in 2011, which makes its world premiere at the Geneva Motor Show 2010. Porsche-Cayenne The 2011 offers five trim levels with gas, diesel engines and hybrids. The range starts in base form with a nomi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Porsche Cayenne 2011&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Porsche has finally packs completely new Cayenne SUV in 2011, which makes its world premiere at the Geneva Motor Show 2010. Porsche-Cayenne The 2011 offers five trim levels with gas, diesel engines and hybrids. The range starts in base form with a nomi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Subaru Legacy GT Spec B (2007) &#8211; Road Test by Eug</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/articles/subaru-legacy-gt-spec-b-review/comment-page-1#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Eug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you guys driven the pre-2.5L, current-shape 2L Legacy GT in auto - is it just as sluggish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you guys driven the pre-2.5L, current-shape 2L Legacy GT in auto &#8211; is it just as sluggish?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mercedes-Benz F800 Style concept revealed by nitin tyagi</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/news/mercedes-benz-f800-style-concept-revealed/comment-page-1#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>nitin tyagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love concepts and future cars&#160;
tell me the new innovations on my id...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love concepts and future cars&nbsp;<br />
tell me the new innovations on my id&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mercedes-Benz E250 CDI (2009) &#8211; Road Test by Neil Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/articles/mercedes-benz-e250-cdi-2009-road-test/comment-page-1#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear Mercedes have temporarily&#160;stopped production of the E250 CDI and the E220 CDI. The piezo injectors are failing and there are not enough to keep existing cars on the road. My own new&#160;E250 has been at the dealers for&#160; two weeks and I still have no date for repair. The worst thing&#160;is that based on the number of failures in Germany Mercedes knew the probability that my car would break down before they sold it to me but it did not stop&#160;them from selling it and keeping quiet. Why do Toyota get so beaten up and not Mercedes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear Mercedes have temporarily&nbsp;stopped production of the E250 CDI and the E220 CDI. The piezo injectors are failing and there are not enough to keep existing cars on the road. My own new&nbsp;E250 has been at the dealers for&nbsp; two weeks and I still have no date for repair. The worst thing&nbsp;is that based on the number of failures in Germany Mercedes knew the probability that my car would break down before they sold it to me but it did not stop&nbsp;them from selling it and keeping quiet. Why do Toyota get so beaten up and not Mercedes?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mercedes-Benz F800 Style concept revealed by Mercedes Benz F800 concept. - MBClub UK Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/news/mercedes-benz-f800-style-concept-revealed/comment-page-1#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercedes Benz F800 concept. - MBClub UK Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Benz F800 concept.            Hi guys,  I was browsing the web when i came across this page ( Mercedes-Benz F800 Style concept revealed &#124; Car &amp; SUV ). Not bad if it will be pumping out 400bhp, was wondering if any of you people think it will ever [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Benz F800 concept.            Hi guys,  I was browsing the web when i came across this page ( Mercedes-Benz F800 Style concept revealed | Car &amp; SUV ). Not bad if it will be pumping out 400bhp, was wondering if any of you people think it will ever [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toyota Corolla steering issue &#8216;no worries&#8217; for NZ vehicles by Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/news/toyota-corolla-steering-issue-no-worries-for-nz-vehicles/comment-page-1#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota NZ also said that NO NZ Toyota cars were effected by the recall. 2 days later the Avensis was recalled. I have little faith in toyota now.&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota NZ also said that NO NZ Toyota cars were effected by the recall. 2 days later the Avensis was recalled. I have little faith in toyota now.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kia Cerato SX (2009) &#8211; Road Test by David N</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/articles/kia-cerato-sx-2009-road-test/comment-page-1#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>David N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it rear wheel drive. If there were some under bonnet pics, engine serviceability, engine orientation etc questions would have been answered. Does it come in 4 wheel drive option.&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it rear wheel drive. If there were some under bonnet pics, engine serviceability, engine orientation etc questions would have been answered. Does it come in 4 wheel drive option.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Mitsubishi Evo XI may be hybrid powered by CR-Z Type-R? - Page 3 - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/news/new-mitsubishi-evo-xi-may-be-hybrid-powered/comment-page-1#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>CR-Z Type-R? - Page 3 - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I know the redline sucks on diesel even if they can reach 5k on some engines now, but I would rather have that than a very complicated system that only a dealership will be able to fix. It would not be a traditional Honda sports car, but neither is a hybrid. If it is about frugal fun and reliability a diesel would be an easier way to go. But what do I know. Even the Evo is going hybrid New Mitsubishi Evo XI may be hybrid powered &#124; Car &amp; SUV [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I know the redline sucks on diesel even if they can reach 5k on some engines now, but I would rather have that than a very complicated system that only a dealership will be able to fix. It would not be a traditional Honda sports car, but neither is a hybrid. If it is about frugal fun and reliability a diesel would be an easier way to go. But what do I know. Even the Evo is going hybrid New Mitsubishi Evo XI may be hybrid powered | Car &amp; SUV [...]</p>
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